I’ve been reading up on Prometheus and the Alien movies lately. Why? Well, here’s a Tesh secret: I’ve never seen any of them, and I never will. I simply do not watch R-rated movies (or play M-rated games). Still, they are sort of a Big Deal in the film industry, with echoes through the game industry. My college degree was aimed at letting me work in film. Maybe someday I still will, but for now, I work in games. It behooves me to understand the cultural touchpoints that the Alien storyline offer to my professional interests. If nothing else, understanding a bit about Aliens means I can communicate a bit better with those I work with. ”Ripley in a Powerloader” isn’t exactly “Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra“, but the principle is the same (and if you get that reference without looking at the link, you understand what I’m getting at).
Some of this is simply being aware of the linguistic and cultural effects of the Aliens IP, but I’ll admit, I’m also a bit curious as to why they became such a Big Deal. I find horror movies to be… very distasteful. It’s noted sometimes that the first Alien movie was a horror movie that happened to be cloaked in science fiction elements. The sequel was apparently more of a prototypical Action Movie with Alien overlays, and the others were action…y. Prometheus sounds like it’s more of an Alien-like film, in that it’s more about the horror with a little sci-fi musing for flavor. Not having first-hand experience with these, I’m only speaking to what I’ve read about them over the years, so if those hasty generalizations are inaccurate, well, I’m not maliciously and intentionally misrepresenting them, at least. I’m just wrong.
So why do I care? Oddly, I find myself fascinated not with the subject material so much as why they are even hits in the first place. It’s the same sort of fascination I have for trying to figure out the appeal of the endless zombie movies and games, like Romero’s stuff, F.E.A.R. or Silent Hill (and Shamus has a handful of really good articles on horror in games, especially Silent Hill). Y’see, I don’t like zombies, but I think zombie game mechanics are actually a fair bit of fun. They also serve as interesting social commentary sometimes. Still, horror is not the sort of content I’m looking for when I think of “entertainment” or “enlightenment”, and it’s strange to me that these things make as much money as they do.
It seems to me that there are a few key concepts to dig into. One, Fear. Two, Horror. Three, the difference between the two. Four, catharsis. Five, killing monsters. Six, voyeurism. Seven, schadenfreude. Eight, fiction as a coping strategy for avoiding awful, horrible truths. I haven’t really wrapped my head around all of it yet, and it’s a low priority with everything else I’m working on, but still, there’s something there or else this particular flavor of entertainment wouldn’t be making any money.
Also, a thought question I proposed on Twitter a little while back:
What would a horror film look like if there were no gore, no monsters, and most importantly, no death?
To which I might add:
What would the horror genre look like if death itself became unhinged in any of a variety of curious ways?
All this to ask, ultimately:
What makes horror stories most interesting, and why? Can that be explored outside the realm of R-rated and M-rated schlock and actually be approached in a truly mature manner? (I reject the ESRB’s definition of “mature”, which is a prime example of Orwellian doublethink, where most M-rated content is deeply immature.)
Also, and maybe more importantly, what really constitutes “horror”?
It seems to me that there are significant differences between Edgar Allen Poe, Alfred Hitchcock, Wes Craven and Ridley Scott, but all seem to play within the “horror” frame at some level. I have a very strong dislike for the gore, profanity and “torture porn” that might constitute the bulk of modern horror, but at the same time, I am often fascinated with stories that chase down the implications of bad decisions and how people deal with crisis, tragedy and their own failures. That said, I prefer stories that show people learning, or walking a path of redemption, rather than stories that are dystopic, deeply cynical or calculated to be offensive.
I think there’s value in stories and entertainment, value in learning from someone else’s mistakes… but delighting in those mistakes and the often dark, soul-crushing trappings of the horror genre seems to me to be unhealthy. I think understanding horror and fear is important to understanding life, so there’s undoubtedly value in fiction exploring them. There really is Bad Stuff out there, and sometimes we have to deal with it. It’s just… I think there’s a line between understanding it and embracing it, and flirting with that line seems like a bad idea.
This isn’t all just academic, either. It’s practical, as I’m writing what will likely become a series of novels, largely dealing with a fictional alternate history’s huge war and how key characters deal with it. Death is a bit unhinged there. My characters will wind up living through things that nobody should hope to live through. It’s important to face the horrors, though, and ultimately, to prevail in spite of them. As in so many stories, understanding the psychology of these characters will be essential to selling the events and character arcs as interesting and believable, even in unbelievable settings.
So… I’m getting there. I’m not angling for the horror market in any way, but I want to understand the psychology of fear and horror so that I can make the most of them without sliding into the Nietzscheian abyss that waits out there in the dark. It’s good to know where the dark is and how to fight it, but delighting in the fight is dangerous.
Edited to add this link to a comic summary of the first Alien movie, just because it’s good.
Good read…
For me, especially when it comes to zombies, I like horror less for the gore and more as a setting against which people are tested. The nature of the apocalypse is interchangeable and almost unimportant except to inform upon the nature of the response by the people living through it.
Horror seems to have kind of become a bit of a joke for me personally. It all comes down to the things you presented here, the gore, the profanity and the half or totally naked young ladies appearing at various stages. The plots are often quite comical and the execution more so, there are few serious looks at things and those that are still use many of the same tropes we see in a lot of the stuff that I see televised on things like the Horror channel. For me Prometheus wasn’t actually scary, nor all that horrifying. I watched the Aliens movies growing up so maybe, because I have some expectation about what is happening, I am inured to things.
This is a most intersting post Tesh full of things to think about. So much so that I am pretty sure I will need to think about it a bit longer to fully appreciate. Nevertheless a few things jump out straight away that I want to ask / talk about.
First off I applaud your decision to explore a genre that you dislike just because you realise it is culturally important. Given that you have made that decision however can you still avoid watching them? Surely there is only so far you can go in your analysis without at least watching the most notably examples.
Secondly your post makes me think about my own attitude towards horror and the reasons why I like it. I find I have quite specific tastes – Monsters and horrible space aliens I enjoy , serial killlers I detest. I don’t mind “sexy” horror (female vamprires and witches for example) but I hate sexual violence (rape). I prefer my horror to be atmospheric and thought provoking rather than explicit and gory but I get bored if the horror is too subtle. For that reason I am suspicious of any horror movie that does not have a mature rating.
Reason I enjoy horror movies and games: Mostly its for the emotional reaction, the adenaline rush I get from being genuinely scared.
Can you make good horror wihout a mature rating ,Yes certainly but I personally think that is an unnessecary restriction. Many of the greatest movies and games have mature ratings and are better for it, in my opinion.
A superb recent example is the game “Limbo” in the latest indie bundle. I found the first half of the game genuinely terrifying.Second half not so much. It is all in the sound effects so play the game on your own with headphones for best effect. (Sadly I just realised it has an M rating so you may not be interested).
Third thing that struck me is your choice of Aliens as being culturally significant.The eighties was the decade of my late teens / early twenties so the cultural memes of that period strike a particular resonance with me. Sadly there was a lot of drivel but horror was one genre that had a strong showing in the period and the second Alien movie (Aliens) is one of my favourite ever movies and not just for the horror. Sigourney Weaver’s stong female lead character was quite exceptional in those days and really stood out for me.
Alien is the only movie that ever made me jump out of my theatre seat. I watched Aliens while peeking over the shoulder of the guy in front of me. They were both great fun.
I went for the Sci-Fi, but as horror films, they were of significantly higher quality than other offerings at the time. The gritty, realistic portrayal of the technologies in use was original (Blade Runner didn’t come out until 3 years later) compared to the magical technology in Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers in the 25th Century.
I recently rewatched all 4 films and Alien is still the best, even knowing in advance the shocking things that occur. Aliens is a close second, but it definitely much more James Cameron than the first. I’m planning to see Prometheus in the theatre, I’ve been looking forward to it since I first saw the trailer.
I love this post. It puts into words many of my own feelings about horror. I, along with most people I think, have a strange fascination with fear, and death, and horrible things happening. But at the same time, I can’t even watch relatively tame “horror” films and don’t really want to.
I think you’re right – as an author, especially in certain genres, you need to be able to deal with these things. I think there are lots of ways to deal with death and Bad Things as an author, but I think it would be impossible to write a compelling story without them. Like you said, horror seems to be a big part of our culture, maybe because in a way it’s a big part of life.
Anyway, I’m gonna be really excited to read your books someday.
This is a fab analysis of a topic I always wondered about. I’ve never quite understood the appeal of horror movies and fiction; my partner is a big Aliens fan (he got me to watch the first three films after 8 years of begging….) and many of my friends are into horror films, but the attraction is completely lost on me. my own reaction is/was always somewhere between uneasiness, disgust or a heavy eyeroll.
if someone invites me to watch a horror flick, I will gladly pass. your observations on why / what people find in this genre is very interesting.
I make a big distinction between horror and ghost stories myself; I guess it’s not strictly speaking a correct one, but the more lyrical, gothic tales of Poe or Dahl are a different matter to me entirely. I enjoy thrilling mystery or fantasy tales that stay on the level of suggestion. I watched the Woman in Black lately and quite liked it.
I find Stephen King’s earlier stuff does so well as horror precisely because the horror isn’t from the supernatural bits, although there are supernatural bits, it being King. The real horror, imo, in King’s work is powered by tragedy and the darkness of the human heart. In many ways, the supernatural elements are both key… and incidental at the same time.
Disclaimer: While not fond of torture porn horror, nugget is a great lover of all silly supernatural horror movies and books.
Jason,
Indeed, that’s really what I find interesting. Seeing/reading how people handle events is the part I care to understand and use.
ZombiePirate,
That makes me wonder… do these things just coast on the shock value? I think they probably do, but that’s just a guess.
mbp,
First, yes, I’m limiting myself, but I’m OK with that. I’ve picked up enough from reviews and papers on serious analysis to get what I want.
Second, it sounds like you’re in it for the shock factor. That part doesn’t interest me, but I do understand some of the psychology there. There are some curious effects when you go to a place specifically to be scared… but you know there’s no real danger. That’s where the catharsis and proxy emoting aspects of this come into play.
Third, Alien has been big for as long as I can remember (born in 1976). I grew up with a strong mother (raised my sister and I alone for a decade), and Ripley was established by the time I knew of her. Strong women weren’t an oddity to me… but digging into the history of the film, it really does stand out how strong of an effect Ripley had, largely for the positive.
Oh, and incidentally, tor.com has a good synopsis of Ripley as contrasted with the new Dr. Shaw heroine thisaway:
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/06/ripley-versus-shaw-the-women-of-the-alien-universe
Robert,
The “gritty”, more “realistic” aspect of the film, as opposed to the fantasy world of Star Wars, definitely has a strong effect. It turns out that I really can’t stand H. R. Giger, but I’ll readily note that the man has a strong style, and it has a way of echoing in the personality of the presentation of the film.
Becca,
*chuckle* Thanks! I really need to finish the books. I do think I’ll avoid the pessimistic, cynical side of things, though. There’s enough of that in the real world. (And did anyone go read that article at the link I noted in the “awful, horrible truths” phrase? Real wars have some crazy terrible things to be recounted. No facehuggers, but in some ways, far worse for knowing that these things *really* happened.)
Syl,
When these things stay on the “suggestion” level, they really do seem to work better in some ways. It’s not the best parallel, perhaps, but while we’re talking about the penumbra of human morality, there are simple psychological reasons that skanky, titillating attire is often *more* tantalizing than full-on nudity. Leaving things to the imagination can be both simpler and more powerful. Leveraging the reader’s imagination can do wonders. (For better or worse, really.)
nugget,
I think that “dark heart” really is indeed the key. That darkness is something we all have to be aware of and beware of.
Thanks for the comments, all!
Blair Witch Project?
I can’t stand shakycam filmmaking. I’ve heard Blair Witch Project is one of those Big Deal cultural touchpoints, but the teaser I saw for it made me completely disinterested. Still, I should probably read a bit more about it, thanks for the reminder.
I’m not a huge fan of shakycam myself, however, I really enjoy the Blair Witch because it was very different at the time it came out, and it was horror completely without gore. It captures very well the feelings of being lost in the woods.
Paranormal Activity
The Ring
The Woman in Black
Insidious
I’ve wondered if the appeal of horror movies was just how safe some people feel in their normal lives, particularly in ‘returning’ to their normal life after the movie is over. But as the song ‘horror movie’ says, you can watch the six o’clock news and see the bad things happening in real life. I suspect people who watch horror movies wouldn’t for some time if a road accident or death occured to someone they knew. It’s just in the meantime they feel super duper perfectly safe.
Some people like being scared or horrified. Some like extreme sports; some, strategy games. Fear, thrill, and fiero release adrenalin all the same.
Yeah, but it’s not really being scared or horrified – they wouldn’t watch such movies right after someone they know has died in a car accident, for example. It’s more like getting a ‘safety’ high than a horror high.
What a fascinating read! If someone had told me today I would be reading about horror movies I would have laughed at them.
I can’t stand horror movies. I actually genuinely dislike being scared. I had to laugh at the shaky cam comment in regards to BWP because I hate those too, I get seasick! I actually hadn’t really thought of the Alien series as horror because I guess I tried to stuff it under the scifi label. Though really if I am covering my eyes or yelping when I am startled or scared then it must be horror
I guess its hard to have a horror movie without all the gore, monsters and death. That’s what scares people. The only other way to scare people is maybe… Have a concept that is terrifying though not necessarily monstrous. Like about being truly alone in the world with nobody left to interact with, not even an insect. Or maybe starving and considering eating your pet dog. Or perhaps living your life as a battery hen or a pig for slaughter. Hmm, maybe I’m not good at this horror thing.